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Postby Exterminance » Fri Jan 18, 2008 10:54 pm

Apparently a few folks have called for banning me from this site due to my apparent extremism. As an alternative, I thought I'd open a thread for discussing my controversial views.

What`s so controversial about me? Well,

I'm racist,
I'm National-Socialist,
I'm strongly anti-Christianity,

and there's likely other things, as different people choose to take offense to different things.

Racism - I find I must define this term, as the definition seems to vary from dictionary to dictionary. Some dictionaries say racism involves hatred of other races, some don't. Well, when I say that I am racist, I mean that I am racially aware; that I perceive differences between the races. I do not mean that I hate other races. I use a definition which is objective and non-emotional.

National-Socialism - a mode of government which can technically be used by any race. I'm a White National-Socialist. The essence of White National-Socialism can be summed up in the Fourteen Words creed, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children".

Anti-Christianity - perhaps a little to complicated to make a sufficient brief summary of, but I see good things and bad things in Christianity, and feel that the bad outweighs the good. That being said, some of my best friends are Christian, and we get along great, they tolerating my paganism as I tolerate their Christianity.

If anyone has any questions on these or other topics, I'd be more than happy to reply.
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Re: Being a controversial character...

Postby Tory_canuck » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:11 pm

\"Exterminance\" wrote:Apparently a few folks have called for banning me from this site due to my apparent extremism. As an alternative, I thought I'd open a thread for discussing my controversial views.

What`s so controversial about me? Well,

I'm racist,
I'm National-Socialist,
I'm strongly anti-Christianity,

and there's likely other things, as different people choose to take offense to different things.

Racism - I find I must define this term, as the definition seems to vary from dictionary to dictionary. Some dictionaries say racism involves hatred of other races, some don't. Well, when I say that I am racist, I mean that I am racially aware; that I perceive differences between the races. I do not mean that I hate other races. I use a definition which is objective and non-emotional.

National-Socialism - a mode of government which can technically be used by any race. I'm a White National-Socialist. The essence of White National-Socialism can be summed up in the Fourteen Words creed, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children".

Anti-Christianity - perhaps a little to complicated to make a sufficient brief summary of, but I see good things and bad things in Christianity, and feel that the bad outweighs the good. That being said, some of my best friends are Christian, and we get along great, they tolerating my paganism as I tolerate their Christianity.

If anyone has any questions on these or other topics, I'd be more than happy to reply.



http://www.freenorthamerica.com/faq.php

The rules speak for themselves.....we allow freedom of speech, however as a member you are to respect others on this site and not insult them, harass them, or threaten them.

Just thought I'd give you something to refer to.

I think Bill and Evolution8 can answer your question better than I can. :-)
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Re: Being a controversial character...

Postby Exterminance » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:15 pm

\"Tory_canuck\" wrote:http://www.freenorthamerica.com/faq.php

The rules speak for themselves.....we allow freedom of speech, however as a member you are to respect others on this site and not insult them, harass them, or threaten them.

Just thought I'd give you something to refer to.

I think Bill and Evolution8 can answer your question better than I can. :-)
Well, so far no one has insulted, threatened or harassed me, so I reckon we're off to a good start.
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Re: Being a controversial character...

Postby Bill Whatcott » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:39 pm

\"Exterminance\" wrote:Apparently a few folks have called for banning me from this site due to my apparent extremism. As an alternative, I thought I'd open a thread for discussing my controversial views.

What`s so controversial about me? Well,

I'm racist,
I'm National-Socialist,
I'm strongly anti-Christianity,

and there's likely other things, as different people choose to take offense to different things.

Racism - I find I must define this term, as the definition seems to vary from dictionary to dictionary. Some dictionaries say racism involves hatred of other races, some don't. Well, when I say that I am racist, I mean that I am racially aware; that I perceive differences between the races. I do not mean that I hate other races. I use a definition which is objective and non-emotional.

National-Socialism - a mode of government which can technically be used by any race. I'm a White National-Socialist. The essence of White National-Socialism can be summed up in the Fourteen Words creed, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children".

Anti-Christianity - perhaps a little to complicated to make a sufficient brief summary of, but I see good things and bad things in Christianity, and feel that the bad outweighs the good. That being said, some of my best friends are Christian, and we get along great, they tolerating my paganism as I tolerate their Christianity.

If anyone has any questions on these or other topics, I'd be more than happy to reply.


To clarify, one person suggested banning you. This is a pretty hot post you made. I have mixed feelings on you. Anyways I don't want my site to become a haven for Nazis.

None the less I am discussing you with my non white Filipina sweetheart and co-administrator.

Your views are extreme, but then again so are mine by many people's standards....

So far you have not broken a house rule. You simply stated where you are at.

You are a Nazi, I am not. In fact one of my favourite posters here is a Jew.

You are openly racist. This statement will likely send one of my posters over the edge. I can handle your statement. My children are mixed race. They are as good as any pure white kids I know. You at least clarify you don't hate other races. You just view races as different and I assume you are against inter-racial marriage. Hey you are entitled to that view too....

You are anti-Christian. Well this site is administered by Christians. Being a former drug addict and sex addict I know Christ changed my life.

This is what I believe:

"And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.

You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.
Romans 5:5-11




Anyways just so you know my co-owner of this site Evolution8 is not calling for your banning. I find this post very provocative and my need to protect this site will outweigh your right to be here. None the less nothing you said in my view here should be illegal in a democracy such as Canada. Please read our rules. You are allowed to be anti-Christian but to post here you must respect the Christians who provide this site free of charge to the public. I don't believe your racial views should be illegal, none the less I expect you to respect the aboriginals, Filipinas and Jews who are on my site.

I will see where this goes. Given Canadians have a poor tolerance for dealing with controversial views I don't know where this will end up.

So far Exterminance has said nothing that violated a house rule. My posters can either ignore him or challenge his ideas. No one should engage in personal attacks.....
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Re: Being a controversial character...

Postby Tory_canuck » Fri Jan 18, 2008 11:54 pm

\"Bill Whatcott\" wrote:
\"Exterminance\" wrote:Apparently a few folks have called for banning me from this site due to my apparent extremism. As an alternative, I thought I'd open a thread for discussing my controversial views.

What`s so controversial about me? Well,

I'm racist,
I'm National-Socialist,
I'm strongly anti-Christianity,

and there's likely other things, as different people choose to take offense to different things.

Racism - I find I must define this term, as the definition seems to vary from dictionary to dictionary. Some dictionaries say racism involves hatred of other races, some don't. Well, when I say that I am racist, I mean that I am racially aware; that I perceive differences between the races. I do not mean that I hate other races. I use a definition which is objective and non-emotional.

National-Socialism - a mode of government which can technically be used by any race. I'm a White National-Socialist. The essence of White National-Socialism can be summed up in the Fourteen Words creed, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children".

Anti-Christianity - perhaps a little to complicated to make a sufficient brief summary of, but I see good things and bad things in Christianity, and feel that the bad outweighs the good. That being said, some of my best friends are Christian, and we get along great, they tolerating my paganism as I tolerate their Christianity.

If anyone has any questions on these or other topics, I'd be more than happy to reply.


To clarify, one person suggested banning you. This is a pretty hot post you made. I have mixed feelings on you. Anyways I don't want my site to become a haven for Nazis.

None the less I am discussing you with my non white Filipina sweetheart and co-administrator.

Your views are extreme, but then again so are mine by many people's standards....

So far you have not broken a house rule. You simply stated where you are at.

You are a Nazi, I am not. In fact one of my favourite posters here is a Jew.

You are openly racist. This statement will likely send one of my posters over the edge. I can handle your statement. My children are mixed race. They are as good as any pure white kids I know. You at least clarify you don't hate other races. You just view races as different and I assume you are against inter-racial marriage. Hey you are entitled to that view too....

You are anti-Christian. Well this site is administered by Christians. Being a former drug addict and sex addict I know Christ changed my life.

This is what I believe:

"And hope does not disappoint us, because God has poured out his love into our hearts by the Holy Spirit, whom he has given us.

You see, at just the right time, when we were still powerless, Christ died for the ungodly. Very rarely will anyone die for a righteous man, though for a good man someone might possibly dare to die. But God demonstrates his own love for us in this: While we were still sinners, Christ died for us.

Since we have now been justified by his blood, how much more shall we be saved from God's wrath through him! For if, when we were God's enemies, we were reconciled to him through the death of his Son, how much more, having been reconciled, shall we be saved through his life! Not only is this so, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ, through whom we have now received reconciliation.
Romans 5:5-11




Anyways just so you know my co-owner of this site Evolution8 is not calling for your banning. I find this post very provocative and my need to protect this site will outweigh your right to be here. None the less nothing you said in my view here should be illegal in a democracy such as Canada. Please read our rules. You are allowed to be anti-Christian but to post here you must respect the Christians who provide this site free of charge to the public. I don't believe your racial views should be illegal, none the less I expect you to respect the aboriginals, Filipinas and Jews who are on my site.

I will see where this goes. Given Canadians have a poor tolerance for dealing with controversial views I don't know where this will end up.

So far Exterminance has said nothing that violated a house rule. My posters can either ignore him or challenge his ideas. No one should engage in personal attacks.....



I posted a link to the rules in my above post.
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Postby Banned_from_FD » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:05 am

"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children".


i care about all children ... i have a heavy heart

some people in here care about children that are not even born yet too,

maybe you should expand your horizons and realize that we are all in this together, before your bitterness drives you into the abyss of alcoholism and fist fights

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Postby zip.com » Sat Jan 19, 2008 3:10 am

\"Exterminance\" wrote:Apparently a few folks have called for banning me from this site due to my apparent extremism. As an alternative, I thought I'd open a thread for discussing my controversial views.

Interesting, I didn't even know you posted here? Did you post under this name?
What`s so controversial about me? Well,

I'm racist,
I'm National-Socialist,
I'm strongly anti-Christianity,

and there's likely other things, as different people choose to take offense to different things.

Go ahead, do tell. I'm all ears. :mrgreen:

Racism - I find I must define this term, as the definition seems to vary from dictionary to dictionary. Some dictionaries say racism involves hatred of other races, some don't. Well, when I say that I am racist, I mean that I am racially aware; that I perceive differences between the races. I do not mean that I hate other races. I use a definition which is objective and non-emotional.

Interesting meaning that you made up. So, you "perceive" differences, so what? So does everyone else.

National-Socialism - a mode of government which can technically be used by any race. I'm a White National-Socialist. The essence of White National-Socialism can be summed up in the Fourteen Words creed, "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children".

Only white children? That statement is racist, btw, in case you didn't know. You said you were not racist in the normal meaning of the word. :roll:

Anti-Christianity - perhaps a little to complicated to make a sufficient brief summary of, but I see good things and bad things in Christianity, and feel that the bad outweighs the good. That being said, some of my best friends are Christian, and we get along great, they tolerating my paganism as I tolerate their Christianity.

And your point is? We all know pagans, a lot of my co-workers are pagans. Very nice people though.

If anyone has any questions on these or other topics, I'd be more than happy to reply.

Go ahead. It's interesting so far. But then, you haven't said much.


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Postby Ben Kenobi » Sat Jan 19, 2008 8:00 am

I'm breaking my rule to post here in the thread, I felt it important that certain comments were made that aren't present.

First, I don't believe there is a 'white' culture per se. TLooking at my own heritage, there is an English culture, a German culture there is an Irish one, and there is a Scandinavian one. We are looking at cultures that have existed for centuries, and are well established in how they do things and in what they believe. I believe that today's modern society even though it is 'white' has discarded much of their love of this culture, and that part of the ones responsible for this were the Nazis.

The Nazis in Germany had no love for the Catholic church. They tried to smash the church were they could, and set up their own culture, which is why Hitler loved Wagner. Wagner gave Hitler access to a pre christian pagan culture that could supplant Christianity. He insisted that all young children be enrolled in his Hitler Youth, in order that they would be devoted to him and not to God.

How can such a movement, even though it is white talk about the preservation of western culture? There are many who are not white who preserve western culture and thought and ideas in how they live their lives, and many who are white who try to smash these ideals. Western ideals transcend both the times they arise and the skin colour of the individual.
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Postby Bill Whatcott » Sat Jan 19, 2008 9:56 am

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The Nazis in Germany had no love for the Catholic church. They tried to smash the church were they could, and set up their own culture, which is why Hitler loved Wagner. Wagner gave Hitler access to a pre christian pagan culture that could supplant Christianity. He insisted that all young children be enrolled in his Hitler Youth, in order that they would be devoted to him and not to God.


Yes the murder of Jews, Protestants and Catholics was the tragic outworking of Nazism's quest for some warped ideal of racial hygiene and their rejection of the truth. In God's eyes all human beings are made equal, He has no favourites......

"YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." Matthew 19:19

The Scripture is clear, blacks, Jews, Chinese, Natives etc... is my neighbour and vice versa...... :mrgreen:

See the parable of the Good Samaritan: Luke 10:30-37

30Jesus replied and said, "A man was (AJ)going down from Jerusalem to Jericho, and fell among robbers, and they stripped him and beat him, and went away leaving him half dead.

31"And by chance a priest was going down on that road, and when he saw him, he passed by on the other side.

32"Likewise a Levite also, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the other side.

33"But a (AK)Samaritan, who was on a journey, came upon him; and when he saw him, he felt compassion,

34and came to him and bandaged up his wounds, pouring oil and wine on them; and he put him on his own beast, and brought him to an inn and took care of him.

35"On the next day he took out two [a]denarii and gave them to the innkeeper and said, 'Take care of him; and whatever more you spend, when I return I will repay you.'

36"Which of these three do you think proved to be a neighbor to the man who fell into the robbers' hands?"

37And he said, "The one who showed mercy toward him." Then Jesus said to him, "Go and do the same."


The Samaritan was to the Jew Of Jesus' day what a Black person is to a modern White Supremacist. Yet in the eyes of our Lord the Samaritan was the good neighbour........ :cross:
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Postby Theresa » Sat Jan 19, 2008 10:56 am

Bill wrote:

None the less I am discussing you with my non white Filipina sweetheart and co-administrator.


Really!!! this is such sweet news.

Maybe evolution you will come to Canada and I can meet you.

Filipinos have done so much to revitalize the Canadian church, I have so much respect for your people.

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Postby Banned_from_FD » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:05 am

Yes the murder of Jews, Protestants and Catholics was the tragic outworking of Nazism's quest for some warped ideal of racial hygiene and their rejection of the truth.


dont forget about the gypsies, homosexuals and "communists" they slaughtered wholesale
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Postby Bill Whatcott » Sat Jan 19, 2008 11:19 am

\"Banned_from_FD\" wrote:
Yes the murder of Jews, Protestants and Catholics was the tragic outworking of Nazism's quest for some warped ideal of racial hygiene and their rejection of the truth.


dont forget about the gypsies, homosexuals and "communists" they slaughtered wholesale


Yes the slaughter of gypsies and Communists is well documented.
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Postby evolution8 » Sat Jan 19, 2008 12:39 pm

\"Theresa\" wrote:Bill wrote:

None the less I am discussing you with my non white Filipina sweetheart and co-administrator.


Really!!! this is such sweet news.

Maybe evolution you will come to Canada and I can meet you.

Filipinos have done so much to revitalize the Canadian church, I have so much respect for your people.

off topic sorry


Thank you Theresa. God willing, yes I would love to be there and meet Bill's family, friends and wonderful people like you. Bill has said many nice things about you. ;-)

I really appreciate your comment about the Filipino people. I would also do the same given the chance. :-)
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Postby Banned_from_FD » Sat Jan 19, 2008 6:51 pm

\"Bill Whatcott\" wrote:
\"Banned_from_FD\" wrote:
Yes the murder of Jews, Protestants and Catholics was the tragic outworking of Nazism's quest for some warped ideal of racial hygiene and their rejection of the truth.


dont forget about the gypsies, homosexuals and "communists" they slaughtered wholesale


Yes the slaughter of gypsies and Communists is well documented.
Here is a book I will recommend. You won't like it but it is historically accurate....

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Postby Exterminance » Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:50 pm

\"Banned_from_FD\" wrote:
"We must secure the existence of our people and a future for White children".


i care about all children ... i have a heavy heart
The Fourteen Words also work for other races. Blacks could say "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for Black children". It's important for everyone to love their own kind.

\"Banned_from_FD\" wrote:some people in here care about children that are not even born yet too,
I too am anti-abortion in general. I could see some circumstances in which it might be allowed, but I think a lot of unnecessary abortions could be done away with by simply bteaching children responsibility before they wind up with an 'unwanted pregnancy'.

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\"Banned_from_FD\" wrote:maybe you should expand your horizons and realize that we are all in this together, before your bitterness drives you into the abyss of alcoholism and fist fights
Not much chance of alcoholism - I used to be a heavy drinker but can hardly stand the stuff now. Fistfights maybe, me and my buds are starting our own fight club.

\"Banned_from_FD\" wrote:the pigments in your skin don't make you special
Race is about a LOT more than mere skin color. It's merely chance that some races were named for their color, we could have been named after eye-color, hair-color, nose shape or size, or cultural peculiarities for that matter. Just because we happened to get named after a color doesn't mean that color is the most significant feature of us.
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