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WHEN WILL WE ADMIT THE TRUTH about Barack Obama?

Postby evolution8 » Mon May 05, 2008 11:04 am

WHEN WILL WE ADMIT THE TRUTH
ABOUT BARACK OBAMA?


By: Selwyn Duke

If you interview someone for a job, you’ll expect him to tell you what you want to hear. There’ll be a façade, and his darker side will remain well-hidden. Now, let’s say a requirement for the job is that the applicant likes children, and he does his best Captain Kangaroo. But then you find out he has a job history of indifference to and perhaps even abuse of them and that, during unguarded moments, he has expressed disdain for them. What will you believe, what he tries to sell you or history and hair-down revelations?

Remember this when evaluating the profound discrepancy between Barack Obama’s damage-control denials and flowery rhetoric, and his long track record. Understand that he, like the other candidates, is interviewing for the job of president with you, the interviewer. His job is to bend the truth; your job is to discern it. The only question is: Who will do a better job, he or you?

Either Obama really is a savior for the third millennium, or the answer is that he is, thus far, besting many of you. Millions flock to him, registering oohs and ahs, fainting and fawning. Even critics and watchdogs heap praise upon him; Bill O’Reilly said he likes Obama and Sean Hannity proclaimed him a “good man.â€
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Postby Yeh » Mon May 05, 2008 11:16 am

He's about hope. And change. And hope and change. :roll:
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Postby Watchman » Mon May 05, 2008 12:50 pm

\"Yeh\" wrote:He's about hope. And change. And hope and change. :roll:


What needs to be changed? The way I see it, no matter who's in office everything will still remain the same. 8 years of a Republican followed by 8 years by a Democrat, and so on, and so on. Our country needs to kick BOTH parties out of politics and kick the old timer repeat congressmen out of office too. Otherwise, everything will just remain the same.
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Postby Yeh » Mon May 05, 2008 2:51 pm

I like the 8 years of republican better than the 8 years of democrat. But what do I know?
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Postby Watchman » Mon May 05, 2008 3:49 pm

\"Yeh\" wrote:I like the 8 years of republican better than the 8 years of democrat. But what do I know?


Amen and hallelujah to that!
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Right Back At Ya!

Postby Fr. Philip Mullen » Tue May 06, 2008 2:34 am

Tuesday in Ascensiontide,
05-06-2008


\"Watchman\" wrote:
\"Yeh\" wrote:I like the 8 years of republican better than the 8 years of democrat. But what do I know?


Amen and hallelujah to that!


Dear Friends,

We COULD have better CANDIDATES this year, if the PEOPLE wanted it -- unfortunately, POPULAR CULTURE makes itself known in POLITICS/GOVERNMENT -- as well as every other aspect of society.

If McCain chooses a more Conservative Christian VP Running Mate than himself, like Mike Huckabee, Conservative Christians should and will vote for McCain/Huckabee. But if McCain chooses someone "MODERATE", like himself, this Christian Pastor & his family will vote for Congressman Duncan Hunter.

Hallelujah and Amen! -- Right Back At Ya! :cowboy:

God Bless!

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Postby Yeh » Tue May 06, 2008 5:54 am

Huckabee is not a conservative. He's a tax-raising, illegal immigrant loving Christian socialist.
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Postby Watchman » Tue May 06, 2008 7:44 am

\"Yeh\" wrote:Huckabee is not a conservative. He's a tax-raising, illegal immigrant loving Christian socialist.


Reference please. What tax rates is he considering increasing and how is he for illegal immigration? Or is this blind rhetoric.
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Re: Right Back At Ya!

Postby Watchman » Tue May 06, 2008 7:46 am

\"Fr. Philip Mullen\" wrote:Tuesday in Ascensiontide,
05-06-2008


Dear Friends,

We COULD have better CANDIDATES this year, if the PEOPLE wanted it -- unfortunately, POPULAR CULTURE makes itself known in POLITICS/GOVERNMENT -- as well as every other aspect of society.

If McCain chooses a more Conservative Christian VP Running Mate than himself, like Mike Huckabee, Conservative Christians should and will vote for McCain/Huckabee. But if McCain chooses someone "MODERATE", like himself, this Christian Pastor & his family will vote for Congressman Duncan Hunter.

Hallelujah and Amen! -- Right Back At Ya! :cowboy:

God Bless!

In Christ's Love,
:cowboy:


I couldn't have said it any better myself. I too liked Duncan Hunter. He was the true conservative. I also liked Huckabee.
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Postby Yeh » Tue May 06, 2008 10:35 am

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Reference please. What tax rates is he considering increasing and how is he for illegal immigration? Or is this blind rhetoric.
First of all, Rush Limbaugh called him a liberal. Maybe that means something to you, maybe it doesn't.

Liberal on immigration: http://www.standardnewswire.com/news/742931899.html

Liberal on taxes: Huckabee Raised Taxes Over His Tenure As Governor, Hurting the Middle-Class. Governor Huckabee pushed for a sales tax increase in 1996, 2002 and 2004, and a fuel tax in 1999 squeezing the pockets of middle-class citizens on everyday purchases and for workers who needed to drive to and from work. Huckabee also made it clear he opposed sales tax exemption bills because they would hurt his tight state budget. A conservative fiscal group pointed out that "by the end of his ten-year tenure, Governor Huckabee was responsible for a 37% higher sales tax in Arkansas, 16% higher motor fuel taxes." [Arkansas Democrat Gazette, 1/19/06; The Commercial Appeal, 7/1/99, The Associated Press, 4/2/99; Arkansas Democrat-Gazette, 11/15/02, The Associated Press, 11/15/02; AP, 2/6/04; Arkansas Democrat Gazette, 1/19/06; Club for Growth, Presidential White Paper #1]

Some more: http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m ... _n24232084

one highlight: Dick Armey commented:

"Republicans shine when they are committed to securing the blessings of freedom by limiting the size and reach of government. Mike Huckabee's record shows he is more interested in feel good economic populism and he believes in the power of the state to interfere in the economic and personal lives of Americans. This government knows best philosophy is more at home with liberals, not the conservative electorate.



If McCain picks Huckabee I'll stay home on election day. So will millions of other conservative republicans.
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Postby Watchman » Tue May 06, 2008 11:30 am

Thanks Yeh for sending these references. I will take a look at them and get back with you.

Just an FYI - I do take some stock in what Rush says. But, Rush looks at things purely from a political view and not a social one. As a Christian, I tend to vote based on social issues and not on fiscal or political issues. This is why Huckabee has appealed to me. Not only is he pro-life, but he is against stem cell research and against gay marriage. And he is for the the teaching of intelligent design and placing public prayer back into the public school system. He is MUCH more socially conservative than any other candidate. These are much more important issues to me than immigration and taxes. For this is what defines our society.
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Postby Yeh » Tue May 06, 2008 12:37 pm

\"Watchman\" wrote:These are much more important issues to me than immigration and taxes
How much I pay in taxes or how many illegal immigrants come into the country and spend my tax dollars are much more important to me than the president's opinion on gay marriage or stem cell research.
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Postby Watchman » Tue May 06, 2008 1:15 pm

\"Yeh\" wrote:How much I pay in taxes or how many illegal immigrants come into the country and spend my tax dollars are much more important to me than the president's opinion on gay marriage or stem cell research.


And this is where we greatly differ. You can change taxes, but you can't bring back to life an aborted baby.
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Postby Yeh » Tue May 06, 2008 3:15 pm

\"Watchman\" wrote:And this is where we greatly differ. You can change taxes, but you can't bring back to life an aborted baby.
The aborted baby is an abstract; a woman may choose an abortion, or she may not. Taxes are real; everyone pays them.

Anyway, if you think abortions are going to be outlawed you're dreaming.
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Postby Watchman » Tue May 06, 2008 7:17 pm

\"Yeh\" wrote:The aborted baby is an abstract; a woman may choose an abortion, or she may not. Taxes are real; everyone pays them.


Aborted babies are beautifully created in the eyes of God. This is no abstract. It's LIFE!

Anyway, if you think abortions are going to be outlawed you're dreaming.


And unfortunately, it's because of people who think like you that this is likely a true statement.
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