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Postby Bill Whatcott » Mon Aug 11, 2014 12:27 pm

Korky_Day wrote:Thanks for letting me into your forum today.
I joined for several reasons:
1. I marched in the parade in the continguent (Wreck Beach's Bare Buns Run) immediately ahead of Bill Whatcott and the CCFSM in Vancouver 2014 August 3. I was very positively impressed with him, though I haven't yet read the condom hand-out. I am friends with the parade organisers.
2. I am not a fan of your organisation, mostly, yet I am extremely unusual in my attempts to reach out, in a 'Christian' way, to my 'enemies'.
3. Bill Whatcott, though I have not communicated with him, has a lot in common with me: primarily in that we are both daring, unusual, and funny. Not like the boring people in the middle.
4. I might mediate the CCFSM-CFSM dispute.

I am an ex-Christian pro-gay nudist atheist activist in Vancouver, BC.

If you allow me to remain in this forum, I will instigate good, intelligent, stimulating conversation. I am respectful of people generally, but disrespectful of ideas I oppose (the same as you in FNA are). If you can understand and appreciate that last distinction (loving people but not loving everything they do), you will understand and appreciate my participation. If not, or if your egos get bruised too much by my challenging ideas, you might expel me, as others have from other groups.

Korky Day, http://www.korky.ca


Thanks for sharing with us Korky. To be clear this is mine and Joni's private property so we reserve the right to ban as we see fit. If we think someone is a definite detraction to our site we will ban. This site is for social conservatives and we want to keep it friendly for social conservatives and while I support free speech for all, noticing over the years how I get prosecuted for my speech by leftists has left me feeling a little bit jaded when leftists cry for and demand free speech. Hence, my first priority is to keep this place welcoming for social conservatives as we really don't have many places on the net where we feel welcomed.

Now having said that I have active accounts from homosexual activists and leftists dating back to when this board first opened in 2007 and they are free to post whenever they wish.

I seldom ban for views, usually I only ban for pornography, insults (as in seriously rude insults of a personal nature, attacking ideas is fine even if they piss someone off) and vulgar language. You sound polite and you sound like you want to make arguments so we welcome you to make your case here......... :welcome:
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Re: Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster to sue Whatcott and o

Postby HalleluYaH » Mon Aug 11, 2014 11:00 pm

Uh, I would like to clear some untruths. When I quoted that verse In Yirmeyahu (Jeremiah) 48:10 it is a word for word transliteration from the original writings in Hebrew. The word in Hebrew that is often translated as 'deceitfully' is 'remiyah' is best as' treachery' or 'remissness' or 'deceit' or 'negligent' as it comes from the root word 'ramah' which means to 'delude' or 'betray' (which even Strong's Hebrew Dictionary confirms).

So now that verse in Yirmeyahu (Jeremiah) 48:10 is straight, once again. Phew : )

That's my so-called "Judaized, Sabbath obsessed" training from the Scriptures to see the original Hebrew to get the full meaning of the Word. That description fits the true Messiah as He taught often on the 7th day Sabbath and how to enjoy the 7th day Sabbath (Matt 12:1-12, 24:12; Mark 1:21-35, 2:23-28, 3:1-7, 6:1-5; Luke 4:16, 6:1-11, 13:10-21, 14:1-35; Yochanan/John 5:1-18, 7:21-24, 9:1-41) and as a Hebrew man He related in Hebrew (Acts 24:14,15). A lot of Sabbath examples by the true Messiah, so as the saying goes "thanks for the compliment" as I am in good company to have even two attributes of the true Messiah. And interesting you refer to me as "Sabbath obsessed' and yet I didn't originate anything about the Sabbath in this dialogue ... you did! I wonder why? Apparently the true Messiah, you and I are obsessed with this Sabbath. Now that is a hot HalleluYaH! : )

Anyway, I was NOT quoting any middle ages pork eating, sunday going scholars. I was, and am, quoting from reading the Hebrew to the best English word or from a Hebraic mindset in Greek words and taking it to the Hebrew and then to English ... and NOT from any particular translation. So I ask you to cease in bearing false witness of me in this and also in that I have never even suggested to be in judgment of who is lost or not lost but again if some Scriptures may convict you or others to see it that way that ... so be it. I quote Scriptures; many many witnesses from the Scriptures so as to NOT to be out of context. I would quote the entire Book on each subject if there was room (and if I thought anybody in the 'asleep christian church' really cares). And you ... you say you don't have time to address the other Scriptures I quoted or just won't as perhaps they are hard to reconcile with your actions, so why would I post even more to substantiate what the Word states? However that is why there was many Scriptures offered to support the theme of the Word not just one verse randomly. C'mon, if these verses supported your actions would they be called by you as "uninspired"? I truly doubt it. : )

Now to your version of 'evangelism' ... again, I ask "Can you see the true Messiah doing 'evangelism' in this way?" There is NO Scripture exampling this and that is our answer. I/we/anyone can evangelize to all who have ears to hear in an upright and honest way. This is the example of the true Messiah who didn't change who He is for others ... but asks us to transform ourselves to be Messiah-like through His Spirit. The simplicity of the Messiah (2 Corinthians 11:3) is in 1 Yochanan (John) 2:6 is to walk as He walks. So this Hebrew, Sabbath guarding, non-pork eating, guarding ALL the law and commandments, TRUE Messiah is our model. Period. Simple. Too simple for most who want to create another messiah into who they want him to be, to fit their un-Messiah-like choices.

So there is nothing to bicker about as sodomy is truly against the Scriptures! What is confusing is how one can selectively take one or two albeit important precepts out of hundreds of commandments and negate other ones? Like the seventh day Sabbath which was written in the famous ten commands by the finger of the Almighty and is referenced in over 100 passages versus sodomy which is referenced in less than 10. How is that not an obsession by the Almighty as it is the ONLY one of the ten commands that begins with "remember" (Exodus 20:8)? However, I just bring it to view when brought up and with much fruit as many (too many to count) have been blessed and accepted it as Scripture and have been eternally thankful. However, I stop way short of trying to trick someone into it through any disguise in this (or any) truth of Scriptures. As the Scriptures are clear that no one is to judge me for guarding this precious command (Colossians 2:16) and since this is written I believe I should do the same and not judge those who have used their free will to not obey. Even though the Messiah clearly did guard this command (Mark 1:21-35; Luke 4:16) as did all of His true followers (Acts 13:42-44, 18:4) I respect the right of those who choose not to. Befuddling, as it was only given out of love so we would be refreshed (Exodus 23:12) as He rested and was refreshed (Exodus 31:17). It's not like the world has slowed down and doesn't need this commanded rest that is given in love. And it's not like the Almighty (who does NOT change) now has changed and doesn't love this generation and wants them all to burn out. : )

So, I could ask you to put aside your sodomy obsession and look at what is happening ... HE has ways we must abide by to evangelize in His way. One could hand out Scriptures without the deception. There are folks that are now stating from your somewhat narcissistic display that you are actually gay using pictures of you and your actions that day as their proof. This could defeat 'your cause' and gives the enemy fodder to further discredit you. This may be why the Scriptures are our guide as the Almighty's thoughts and ways are higher than our thoughts and ways and thus we are told to "Refrain from ALL appearance [view, form, fashion, shape] of evil.

I have shared this in love for you and to help with any challenges you may have in following the entire Scriptures in your activities.

Death and life is in the power of the tongue ... (Proverbs 18:21) and greater is He that is in me so I am only going where He wants and that will be where I want to be then too. So what the government is doing doesn't effect me as I continue to be in the world and not of the world. And like the true Messiah, who I am wanting to follow completely (unlike the asleep christian church as you so aptly called it,) I will continue to evangelize in the truth of the ENTIRE Scriptures. I can't recall the true Messiah's directly mentioning homosexuality (though a few mentions of Sedom) but repeated actions and references to the Sabbath. However, He continued to guard ALL the Torah (Teachings, Instruction, Law) which does include abhorring homosexual activity ... as I agree to do too.

I hope and pray that this helps ...

IF you guard My commands you stay in My love just as I have guarded My Father's commands and stay in His love. Yochanan (John)15:10
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Re: Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster to sue Whatcott and o

Postby Korky_Day » Tue Aug 12, 2014 12:41 am

Thanks, Bill! I think that I will be one of those you describe who last here.

Anyway, since I am new to FNA, I would like to know if you provide or link to audio recordings of any of your wonderful, hilarious rants you said for a few hours behind me in the parade (including when we were waiting to start walking). Now that you have outed yourself as an anti-gay, alleged non-gay, I want to listen with new ears. (Or in my case, nude ears.)

I also would like to see video of your (and our) parade performances, if available.

Also, I am curious what you and the CCFSM thinks of us in the contingent ahead of you in the parade: Wreck Beach' Bare Buns Run (5-km run). Did you notice us? I know you're anti-gay, but if none of us were gay, would our Adam-and-Eve routines at our nude beach in Vancouver be all right with you? There is a lot of nudity in the Bible, and no commandments to keep our pants on.

Another thing I can't find here in your Web pages is the full text of the flyer in the condom packages. Can you post that? Some of the quotes I saw were no worse than the usual anti-gay stuff I am used to seeing. Not even that 'hateful'. More like, 'As much fun as it might be to act gay, gosh darn, God for some strange reason says it's bad, so we'd better not.'
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Re: Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster to sue Whatcott and o

Postby evolution8 » Tue Aug 12, 2014 5:06 am

Korky_Day wrote:Another thing I can't find here in your Web pages is the full text of the flyer in the condom packages.


Hi Korky, welcome to FNA. Here's the link:

viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10188
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Re: Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster to sue Whatcott and o

Postby Korky_Day » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:04 am

Thanks, evolution8, for the link!

Here is the text for discussion:

The Gospel Condom
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Jesus Christ can set homosexuals free!
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Ex-homosexual Dennis Jernigan celebrated his 30th anniversary with his wife Melinda and their 9 children

Dear Homosexual Pride Parade Attendee,

If you are attending Vancouver’s ungodly pride parade and have come to receive this literature, I want to let you know I am very pleased God has chosen you to be a recipient of the truth contained in this package. God has a plan for you that is much better than chasing the carnal desires celebrated as something to be proud of in the homosexual pride parade.

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A dying and not very proud homosexual

Homosexuality is portrayed as an immutable, harmless, sexual orientation that is to be accepted and even celebrated. This is a lie. Anatomically everyone is heterosexual. The body is not created for sodomy. The truth is those who give themselves over to homosexuality suffer grievously because of their sin.

In spite of billions of dollars being spent fighting sexually transmitted diseases ravaging the homosexual subculture, homosexuals are still suffering and dying from AIDS and other homosexually acquired diseases.

In Toronto 23% of self-identified homosexuals admit to being HIV+

AIDS, anal cancer, and Hepatitis B are potentially fatal diseases that are rampant in Vancouver’s homosexual community. Is this something to be proud of?

“Pride goes before destruction and a haughty spirit before a fall.” Proverbs 16:18

The good news is Jesus Christ can set you free from the bondage of homosexuality or any other sexual addiction. The false pleasure and fun that can be found at a homosexual pride parade is fleeting. The sex is meaningless and risky. The drugs and alcohol so freely available at homosexual pride will only provide a temporary medication. The pain and loneliness that comes with living an unnatural lifestyle, contrary to the will of God, will usually leave you feeling even worse when you sober up and have to deal with your reality.

Dennis Jernigan felt so hopeless and trapped in his homosexual lifestyle, he tried to commit suicide before he truly repented of his sin and turned to Jesus. Thankfully Dennis survived his suicide attempt and turned to Calvary where he found forgiveness for his sins, the gift of eternal life, and a truly abundant life serving God in the here and now.

“For the first time I realized that homosexuality was placed on Jesus on the cross that He died for my sins.”
Dennis Jernigan

“In Him we have redemption through His blood, the forgiveness of sins, according to the riches of His grace”
Ephesians 1:6

If Dennis refused to repent of his homosexual lifestyle, he would have continued to burn with lust for other men and in the end would have most likely been a lonely homosexual infected with a variety of sexually transmitted infections. Because Dennis repented God was gracious to him, not only did God wash him of his sin, He also gave him a beautiful wife and nine children!

“God does renew and transform,” he exclaims. “God does restore. Look at my life. Think of what I would have been robbed from if I never followed the Lord. I would not have my wife and children. I would have nothing, really.”
Dennis Jernigan

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Dennis and his wife and children

“Behold, children are a heritage from the Lord, the fruit of the womb a reward.”
Psalm 127:3

Sadly, our media and culture is turning away from God’s gift of life. Our popular culture portrays marriage and children as burdensome and boring, while sexual immorality is falsely portrayed as liberating and fun. The truth is authentic love and happiness is found in submitting to God’s plan for our lives and turning away from our self-will and turning to our loving Saviour in faith.

“I have come that they may have life, and that they may have it more abundantly.” Jesus Christ

Please look a little deeper at the homosexual pride parade and all its excesses. Is the drugs, alcohol, promiscuity and glorification of selfish desire really a path to happiness? Is the false tolerance and perverted political agenda promoted by the Vancouver “Gay” Pride Parade really in Canada’s best interest?

“Come now, and let us reason together,” Says the Lord, “Though your sins are like scarlet, They shall be as white as snow; Though they are red like crimson, They shall be as wool.”
Isaiah 1:17

If you know you are living a lie and you want to turn from the path leading to death and permanent separation from God, now is the perfect time to ask Jesus Christ to come into your life.

“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”
John 3:16

If you would like to know more about freedom from sexual immorality and God’s gift of His Son Jesus Christ please call:

Bill Whatcott, Executive Director of the Christian Truth Activists
(403) 910-2561
billwhatcott@gmail.com
http://www.freenorthamerica.ca

To let the Vancouver Pride Committee know you appreciate this truthful message about the harm which is inherent to the homosexual lifestyle, and the hope of redemption that is freely available to repentant homosexuals who humble themselves and turn to Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of their sins, you can contact:

Vancouver Pride Committee
1080 Howe Street, Suite 304
Vancouver BC V6Z 2T1
Tel: 604-687-0955
Fax: 604-687-0965
Email: info@vancouverpride.ca
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End of Gospel Condom
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Re: Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster to sue Whatcott and o

Postby Korky_Day » Tue Aug 12, 2014 11:33 am

In that same link from evolution8 is more information about which I would like to comment.
This more-complete link should work, too:
http://freenorthamerica.ca/viewtopic.php?f=16&t=10188 .

On that page are some pictures of me and my nudist colleagues from the parade. Thanks!
We are not completely nude, unfortunately, but maybe you would censor our pictures from FNA if we were.

In one picture, I am the slender, well-tanned man wagging my 97%-bare bum at the camera while looking back toward the camera while wearing bright green glasses with a short, grey beard.

Please feel free, any of you, to comment on genuine nudism. Our movement includes many Christians of all ages.
Unfortunately, some Christians won't go nude for fear that it will arouse gay feelings in themselves. They avoid public showers. By looking the other way or staying clothed they preserve their illusion to themselves that they are 100% straight, though it is extremely normal, common, and healthy for anyone to have occasional gay feelings and actions while being mostly straight.
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Re: Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster to sue Whatcott and o

Postby Korky_Day » Tue Aug 12, 2014 1:09 pm

I could go through the pamphlet sentence by sentence and describe in detail all its fallacies, absurdities, distortions, and deceptions, especially the pseudo-science.

It might be better, though, to step back and try to see what's really happening.
I imagine Bill, a young man lost. He drifts into the gay community. Needs money, takes the easy way and prostitutes himself. Probably drinks, etc. Sees the worst of the gay movement, little of the best. Thinks he must reject all things gay to be a good family man. Reacts extremely and rashly, wants to avoid personal repercussions, goes what seems to be the opposite way: Christianity.

However, St. Paul, the chief theorist of Christianity, showed symptoms of being a closeted, self-loathing gay. Maybe that's an underlying attraction to Bill. Though, too, Christianity is an alcoholic, misogynist, imperialist, oppressive religion. Problem is, Bill is too intelligent and brave, really, to buy the whole Christianity thing--hook, line, and sinker. Too much of a free-thinker. Too hip. So he tries to put his own stamp on his religion, not just accept it meekly and unthinkingly. Especially humour, the source of much wisdom. Starts his own group.

He misses, though, the mental and emotional stimulation of the gay community and the wider free-thinking, skeptical, fun, alternative community. See he comes up with a brilliant, hilarious parody-spoof-infiltration-hoax to try to connect the 2 worlds. Thereby he attracts people like me, an intellectual, idealist, utopian, and lover who survived Christianity and then joined the hip community without becoming an alcoholic, drug-taker, unhealthy, lonely, or diseased.
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Postby Bill Whatcott » Wed Aug 13, 2014 10:33 pm

Thanks for the psychoanalysis.

Actually my concerns about disease and homosexual sexual behaviour became solidified during my career as a home care nurse. Literally 1 out of 4 homosexuals in Toronto and 1 out of 9 in Ottawa have HIV. This is an epidemic. Now when it comes to HPV of the rectum over half of homosexual men have the virus and this is potentially deadly if it leads to anal cancer.

I could go on about hepatitis, anal gonorrhea, syphilis, drug addiction and more. I saw it all in my capacity as a care giver. Anyone who is honest and works in a "gay ghetto" knows self indulgence is common and the outcomes of the self indulgent behaviour is often negative in terms of mental and physical health.

Now my activism on this issue really started ramping up in the mid 1990's many years after I became a Christian and left the drugs and debauchery scene. What got me becoming more vocal was the realization that homosexuality is not about live and let live. The homosexual political machine is really about using coercion to silence dissent and compel affirmation.

I really woke up to this fact as a result of following the prosecution of Dianne Haskett by the Ontario Human Rights Commission: http://www.karenselick.com/CL9804.html
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Postby Korky_Day » Thu Aug 14, 2014 2:26 am

You're welcome, brother.

Now, about gay sex, yes, it can spread disease, as can straight sex.
As a nurse, did you care for people who caught disease from straight sex?
Maybe rape victims? The Bible teaches male superiority, which leads to rape.

Isn't the solution to disease to respect each others' rights and to learn health education, not anti-sex propaganda (gay or straight)?
Our human sex drive (God-given, if you believe in God) dooms your approach to failure.

Part of sex education is sobriety. When you're sober, you're much more likely to take health precautions and to decline the riskiest sex. I've never drunk or taken illegal drugs, and I'm quite healthy at 66. Lots of sex. Never married.
I tell my gay friends that alcohol spreads HIV, etc., but they don't want to hear it if they are boozers, the same as my straight friends don't want to face the fact that booze so often breaks down consent on our campuses.

Another way to protect the health of gays would be to encourage gay marriage and monogamy, eh?
Are with us who have sex or do you want us to die of God's cruel wrath?
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Re: Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster to sue Whatcott and o

Postby LoveTruth » Fri Aug 15, 2014 7:10 pm

New tract against homosexuality and child abuse:

http://www.chick.com/reading/tracts/1039/1039_01.asp

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Re: Church of Flying Spaghetti Monster to sue Whatcott and o

Postby Bill Whatcott » Fri Aug 15, 2014 10:06 pm

Wow! Thanks for sharing! That is an excellent tract and I might have to buy some for high school ministry in Regina! blessyou
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Postby Korky_Day » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:12 pm

The whole tract is ridiculous, hateful, and ignorant.
It says that boys are made gay by gay rape, which is laughable.
So people are made straight by straight rape?
No, people are not naturally straight.
We can be either way naturally.
If 'Brad' joined the gay community, it's because he had that inclination, regardless of the rape.

And how about lesbians?
Dyke rape is much, much rarer percentage-wise than either gay male rape or straight rape.
By the logic of the comic, lesbians would number about 10 in Canada.

If you believe that God made the world, then God made gays, not just human gays, but many other species, too.

Homosexual behavior in animals. From Wikipedia, 2014 8 16.
Homosexual behavior in animals is sexual behavior among non-human species that is interpreted as homosexual or bisexual. This may include sexual activity, courtship, affection, pair bonding, and parenting among same-sex animal pairs. Research indicates that various forms of this are found throughout the animal kingdom.[1][2] As of 1999, nearly 1,500 species, ranging from primates to gut worms, have been observed engaging in same-sex behaviors; this is well documented in about 500 species.[3][4] . . .
See also List of animals displaying homosexual behavior.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual ... in_animals

The big question, then, is why, in the face of facts, people still cling to their superstitions about gays.

The reason, I think, is guilt and shame. If people would quit their irrational guilt and shame about having gay experiences or inclinations, they wouldn't stoop to such silly superstitions to relieve their guilt and shame.

If 'Brad' was raped, why did he feel guilty?
Because he comes from a society which tells him to feel that way, often because of the Christian history of Western Civilisation.

More and more people, especially in Canada, are rejecting the ridiculous, hateful Bible, or the worst parts of it, such as the quotes in the cartoon.

Maybe that explains why Bill Whatcott is expanding to the stupid USA.
(I think I have the right to say that because I'm an immigrant to Canada from the USA.)

I'm looking forward to your answers to my previous posts, too.
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Postby Korky_Day » Sat Aug 16, 2014 12:18 pm

The more someone physically or verbally attacks gays, the more likely they are fighting their own inner 'demons', that they themselves still have gay inclinations which they hate.
Often it's sub-conscious.

Bill Whatcott was so convincing in the parade for obvious reasons.
We love you, Bill, for yourself. Quit hating yourself.
Join a gay church, or, better yet, join us atheists.
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Postby Bill Whatcott » Sat Aug 16, 2014 3:52 pm

I see you have copious time to write prolifically, engage in endless psychoanalysis and read into and even discover the motivations of us Christians. whisper1

It's nice to know you love me Korky :happy: however you shouldn't be so presumptuous to speak for all your other buddies. Having followed the fall out in the media and on different message boards, it looks like two groups have made statements to the effect of wanting to sue me (Vancouver Pride, Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster). Numerous individuals on various blogs have publicly stated I should face criminal charges (hate crimes) for spoofing the parade with the good news of Jesus Christ and the bad news of the consequences related to homosexuality. At least two individuals wanted me raped, several wanted me beaten up, descriptions of me with various profanities are all over the internet and are too numerous to mention. In summary, maybe you love me, but most homosexuals and their allies are actually quite hateful when someone dares to say something derogatory about their sexual behaviour.

The argument for homosexuality amongst humans because animals do it doesn't hold much water for me, animals have also been known to engage in cannibalism and using your logic would mean that it is morally okay for me to eat my kids.

I certainly look at life from a Christian point of view and your heaping endless derision on my faith and values does little to convince me to abandon it....

My rejection of the homosexual lifestyle is rooted both in my Biblical beliefs and in science, which is something you aren't grasping. When Toronto's and Vancouver's homosexual communities are posting HIV infection rates between one out of four and one out of five homosexuals, your argument that straights contract HIV is utterly unconvincing. Outside of Africa, no where else in the world can one find HIV infection rates so high and in Africa the problem is roughly the same amongst heterosexuals as homosexuals the world over, sodomy and multiple partners.

In places like Zambia and South Africa we have an added problem of multiple partners and "dry sex," a strange phenomenon that some black men insist on and some black women seem to acquiesce to where the women dry their vaginal fluids with hot rocks and then engage in sex with a dry vagina that is prone to abrasions and injuries and therefore more susceptible to infections of all sorts, but I digress....

Homosexuality is not healthy anywhere in the world and no matter how "progressive" or advanced or primitive or intolerant a society is, homosexuals get sick and die at rates greater than their heterosexual counterparts.

Now if heterosexuals decide to behave like goats in heat then yes they can put themselves at risk of HIV, syphilis, hepatitis and so forth. While you claim to be happy living and atheistic and sexually liberalized life, empirical evidence shows that your chosen lifestyle and value system is not all that fulfilling in the long run. Aside from the busy STI clinics and the misery that comes with genital herpes, genital warts or the devastating news that one is HIV+, also sexually promiscuous people (straight or homosexual) struggle with loneliness more, kill themselves more often, abuse substances, etc.....

I will stick with self control, marriage, even though it is tough with my wife living in the Philippines and not being able to see her as often as I like and indeed my church community and Bible. I know God is real and I have zilch desire to go anywhere else but to Him.....

Then of course there is my other concern, besides the public health disaster that the promotion of homosexuality and promiscuity in general brought to us, that is the conflict between homosexual activism and religious liberty. The two are mutually exclusive.

At the end of the day, it really is about who is your God. I would encourage you to pick up my book Born in a Graveyard. The book is a good account for my life and why I believe Christ rose from the dead and how that transformed my life.

"Since we have these promises, beloved, let us cleanse ourselves from every defilement of body and spirit, bringing holiness to completion in the fear of God."
2 Corinthians 7:1
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Postby evolution8 » Sun Aug 17, 2014 9:12 am

I like LoveTruth's tract. Children should read it.......... thumbleft
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