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Free Press accuses Whatcott of raising "baby bigot"

Postby Bill Whatcott » Sat Jun 14, 2008 3:52 pm

SATURDAY SPECIAL:
Raising baby bigots

Should child welfare intervene?
By: Gabrielle Giroday and Mike McIntyre
Updated: June 14 at 11:43 AM CDT
http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/ ... 6663c.html

He's been jailed, beaten up and ridiculed publicly for his outspoken views -- but it hasn't stopped Bill Whatcott yet.

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However, what the anti-gay activist heard this week about child and family services workers removing two children from an allegedly neo-Nazi home in Winnipeg made him nervous.

http://www.winnipegfreepress.com/local/ ... 6663c.html
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Anti-gay and anti-abortion Bill Whatcrott holds his three-year-old daughter, Mary, in a recent photo.

"If you're going to target neo-Nazis who haven't actually hit or sexually abused their children, who's to say conservative Christian evangelicals aren't next? Our views are pretty unpopular," said the divorced father of three young daughters.

The self-described "conservative Christian activist'' has made a name for himself in Alberta and Saskatchewan by distributing thousands of flyers labelling gay people as child molesters. He proudly brought his children in a wagon to Heterosexual Family Pride Day, a controversial event he organized in Regina from 2000 to 2002 to coincide with Gay Pride Day.

Whatcott has caught the attention of the police hate crimes unit, but not once have social workers come calling to determine if his views make him an unfit father.

Welcome to the slippery slope for parents with politically incorrect views -- or worse. The controversial case of the Winnipeg family and their swastikas -- which made headlines around the world -- has not only ignited a debate over the rights of parents, but also potentially opened up a new front in the battle to protect children.

It comes at a time when Manitoba's overburdened child welfare system is struggling to take care of the basics of protecting kids.

Whatcott says white supremacist views are "garbage," but "I don't think neo-Nazi speech should be illegal, unless you're advocating imminent murder."

When exactly should the state use its power to move in in the name of child protection?

Family law experts say the province's Child and Family Services Act prohibits acts by parents that cause the "risk of emotional harm," even if the Canadian Charter of Rights and Freedoms states there is freedom of speech. Parents can't use a child -- or any third party -- to carry out their freedom of expression.

Child and Family Services won't discuss the specifics of the Winnipeg case that led to the removal of a seven-year-old girl and a two-year-old boy, other than to send an e-mail about guidelines:

"CFS investigates any situation where there is concern for the safety and well-being of a child," said the e-mail. "Religious (and) political practices that would be harmful to children and cause them to be at risk would be one of the considerations when assessing risk to a child."

David Matas, senior legal counsel for the Jewish rights organization B'nai Brith Canada, said CFS has the authority to remove children from the home if they're being abused. "Indoctrination to racial hatred and being a billboard for hatred is a form of child abuse."

"I mean, it's not only abuse then and there, but it's also giving the child a set of attitudes that will cause the child great harm when the child grows up."

However, the 26-year-old Winnipeg mother involved in the high-profile custody case, who wears a swastika necklace, said she believes she has a right to educate her children according to her beliefs. Those beliefs, and those of the woman's husband, appear to have resulted in the girl showing up at school with a swastika and pro-Hitler statements written on her body in permanent marker.

Of course, much like free speech, the rights of parents are not absolute.

Lines do get drawn and University of Toronto philosophy and religious studies professor David Novak has some advice on where to draw them.

For instance, Novak said racial hate slogans on a child's body -- rather than hateful beliefs alone -- are a basis for authorities to intervene. "School is not a place for political sloganeering."

He notes that slogans that reference Hitler advocate violence, which can hurt others.

"There's a big difference between saying homosexuality is immoral, and somebody who goes around beating up gays."

Gus Boetzkes, vice-president of the Manitoba Association of Rights and Liberties, said even if a parent's beliefs are "odious," the association does not support the removal of kids from homes based on parents' non-mainstream views.

"(We're) very uncomfortable about the state removing children from their parents because of their parents' beliefs."

And Arthur Schafer, director of the University of Manitoba's Centre for Professional and Applied Ethics, adds one more consideration into what is already a complicated equation when bigots have babies -- the danger that removing children from these homes outweighs the benefit.

"What about parents who teach their children that the children are ugly or stupid or worthless?'' Schafer asks.

"Or that God is watching them and will punish them if they have a bad thought, and the children are paralyzed with fear and anxiety? Here, we're talking about children in many religious cultures. What about parents that are emotionally neglectful of their kids, who won't allow their kids to express their emotions? (There are) harmful effects of intervening whenever parents behave in ways that are psychologically damaging or potentially psychologically damaging."

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Postby Bill Whatcott » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:29 am

Liberal media.................. :pottytrain2:
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Postby Banned_from_FD » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:30 pm

why do you answer their phone calls if you dont trust them or believe them?

i thought they were fair to you in the article by the way
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Postby Banned_from_FD » Sun Jun 15, 2008 3:33 pm

and another thing.

you accuse them of not being fair, yet your thread title is not fair to them, they did not "ACCUSE" you of anything, the bigot baby is referring to the jerk in Winterpeg

a bit like the pot calling the kettle black, dont ya think?
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Postby Bill Whatcott » Sun Jun 15, 2008 9:54 pm

\"Banned_from_FD\" wrote:and another thing.

you accuse them of not being fair, yet your thread title is not fair to them, they did not "ACCUSE" you of anything, the bigot baby is referring to the jerk in Winterpeg

a bit like the pot calling the kettle black, dont ya think?


No, you are either not using your head.....

Or you are being disingenuous......

Clearly the writer implied I was raising baby bigots too

They lumped me in the same article as the Nazis

and under the same title

also they lied

I never called all sodomites pedophiles

I've unambiguously stated not all were

What I do say and every study ever done bears it out

Is unrepentant homosexuals have a greater tolerance of and predisposition towards pederasty

I guess this statement in the liberal mind is tantamount to saluting Hitler...... :?
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