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Post Abortion Syndrome - Comments by Fr. Trosch

Postby zip.com » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:16 pm

This is a continuation from the other post abortion thread.

COMMENTS by Fr. David C. Trosch:
http://www.trosch.org/pas/@pas_1-9.htm

On April 20, 1996, Carol Carter finally succeeded in taking her own life. It was on the anniversary of one of her abortions. Following two of her more recent unsuccessful suicide attempts, her despair became so great that she slit both of her arms and also slit her throat four times. Her death however resulted from an overdose of sleeping pills before she had time to bleed to death. Her trail of blood indicated that she had removed herself from the stream she had been in and may have been trying to get home to get help. Ever since her first abortion she had tried many times, using many methods, to terminate her own life.

She left behind three living children. The youngest was a twelve-year-old daughter she had been kept from seeing for many years. Carol had three abortions. She was also aware of one partially developed child being killed as a result of her use of IUDs. The number of other children she may have aborted, via birth control pills and other methods, is known only to God.

Though it is common for women who have had one or more abortions to take their own lives in one manner or another, it is extremely rare that these deaths are statistically related to the abortions they had obtained when younger. The average period of denial in regard to procured abortion is about eight years. Abortion related deaths commonly occur after the period of denial ends and they have struggled with suicidal thoughts over a long period of time, frequently for many years. As with Carol, who could not receive the help she needed from anyone but God, several attempts are normally made before post-abortive women succeed in ending the anguish of memories in this life which have focused on their abortion(s).

According to her latest boy friend, with whom she had been living for two years, Carol often had sudden night screaming events wherein she would sit bolt upright in bed screaming and then cry for several hours. During these episodes she could not be comforted. Frequently, during the daytime, when she would see a child about the age of one of her own aborted children --she somehow had in her own mind determined the sex of each child, given it a name, and kept continual track of its age-- or on the anniversary of the death of one of her children, she would begin uncontrollable sobbing or crying. This was often very disheartening for those around her who did not understand the source of her sadness, her anguish.

Methods used to commit suicide are extremely varied. Some die of anorexia, others by overdoses of drugs, both legal and illegal. One woman chose to drive directly into an oncoming truck. Others have driven into light poles, bridge abutments, drowned themselves, etc.

Abusive men played a major role in Carol's life. Though she did her best to help others --after she had become drug and alcohol free while trying to turn her life around-- she had lost her trust in men. Her distrust had become so great she could not bring herself to marry the only man who had not abused her.

Women who have had abortions often marry two or more times and/or live with men who are not their husbands. Having had one abortion they commonly have a replacement child which as often as not they also abort because their basic life condition has not changed. These women are frequently abusive to their husbands and children. They yell at, bait into fights, scratch, beat, and/or throw things at their husbands. The abuse of their children covers the range from extreme over protection --giving it no freedom at all even to the extent of having the child or adolescent sleep with them-- to extreme physical abuse, including torture and death. Verbal abuse of co-workers is also common particularly at times of anniversaries which include date of abortion(s), projected date of birth(s), Mother's Day, and Christmas. Post-abortion complications are numerous. They are highly variable and can be extreme.

Many of these women are repelled by the infants and children of other women. Abnormal and unexplained behavior is prevalent among women who have had an abortion. Few observers ever learn of the reason for unexplained actions or reactions which have abortion as their source. Psychiatrists' treatment of choice seems to be to prescribe a variety of drugs to try to stabilize these women enough to get them through life for another day, and then another, etc. (Counseling is of little help. Association with God through faith is required.) Drugs are given on a trial and error basis. Some of these drugs inhibit the normal functioning of the mind and decrease a woman's ability to mentally cope with her life. Secobarbital (Seconal and generic forms) is known to have been taken by women who have committed suicide. This drug is both hypnotic and sedative. It is known that when taken by elderly (or disturbed) people it tends to bring on or increase nervousness and confusion, thus enhancing the ability to take ones own life. It is also known that interaction with alcohol, tranquilizers, or other sedatives increases the effects of Secobarbital. This drug has been used many times in suicide attempts.

As of yet American psychiatrists, psychologists, and social workers have not accepted a Japanese method or variant which has an aborted woman enshrine a representative porcelain doll in memory of the killed child to complete the natural grieving process. Another method of helping to cope with an abortion is for the mother to hold or participate in a burial service for the dead child --using a doll as proxy helps greatly-- whom they have admitted they have murdered. Post-abortive women, who are past their period of denial, do not equivocate in regard to calling their abortions murder (premeditated killing of an innocent person).

Clinicians do not seem to have learned that women are far more capable of dealing with what is visibly observable. That which remains only within their minds is obscured and thus keeps going through their minds in an unending cycle. Spiritual healing through a positive relationship with God is ultimately the only way of accomplishing permanent healing.Memories relating to abortion remain throughout life. They are never erased. They are only made bearable through growth in real love of God. A true relationship with God takes a substantial amount of time to process and establish. Clergymen need to be involved with this faith development process, but, very few have been properly trained or are capable of working with post-abortive women and their families. Understanding and patience are prerequisite.

The loss of lives of the innocent unborn is only a fraction of the cost paid by society as a whole. One woman I had counseled with over a period of time had had two abortions. She had already consulted so many psychiatrists and had been in so many mental institutions that she knew (relevant) psychology better than the professionals. For her, psychiatry did not help. Her father was paying for a separate apartment for her and supplied her with all of the booze she could drink. Up to that time she had not been able to accept the ability of a merciful God to forgive her for her horrible crimes. Whether she was ever able, with complete trust, to accept God's forgiveness is not known. Her present whereabouts is unknown.

In the Lord's prayer we call God our Father. Abortion murders His helpless children.

fr. David C. Trosch


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Post Abortion Syndrome - Comments by Fr. Trosch

Postby Bill Whatcott » Thu Jan 17, 2008 10:40 pm

Hmmm Zip I see this fine priest agrees with me.....

From your link to his website:

# It should be recognized that to some degree the Church has been infiltrated by: Atheistic Communists - Marxists - Masons - Pedophiles  - Sodomites - Pro-abortionists - Socialists - and other subversive groups as well as other antagonistic religious and foreign government agents. The percentage could range to as high as 50%. If clerics are included who are opposed to doctrines of the Church --such as teachings against abortion and birth control, or teachings on transubstantiation (Jn. 1:14; 3:6; 6:51ff) and other doctrines of Sacred Scripture, the Council of Trent, and the 1st Vatican Council-- the actual percentage would be much higher.
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Post Abortion Syndrome - Comments by Fr. Trosch

Postby zip.com » Fri Jan 18, 2008 6:23 am

\"Bill Whatcott\" wrote:Hmmm Zip I see this fine priest agrees with me.....

From your link to his website:

# It should be recognized that to some degree the Church has been infiltrated by: Atheistic Communists - Marxists - Masons - Pedophiles  - Sodomites - Pro-abortionists - Socialists - and other subversive groups as well as other antagonistic religious and foreign government agents. The percentage could range to as high as 50%. If clerics are included who are opposed to doctrines of the Church --such as teachings against abortion and birth control, or teachings on transubstantiation (Jn. 1:14; 3:6; 6:51ff) and other doctrines of Sacred Scripture, the Council of Trent, and the 1st Vatican Council-- the actual percentage would be much higher.


I never said it wasn't infiltrated with sin. I said your view that homosexuality is now being tolerated in the church is wrong. I still hold that view.
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